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Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2011.05.16 23:08:00 - [1] Originally by: The Truckdriver ... When I explained this to the dev of the round table on low sec space at the fanfest, they didnt even know this was in their game.... lol SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2011.05.16 23:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: The Truckdriver This is not about gatecamping, its a broken game mechanic, period. Feel free to highlight how this is an issue outside of camping. Pursuing a target over 20 jumps as he cloak mwds? SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2011.05.17 13:37:00 - [3] Edited by: Le Skunk on 17/05/2011 13:37:56 Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Lady Spank Originally by: The Truckdriver This is not about gatecamping, its a broken game mechanic, period. Feel free to highlight how this is an issue outside of camping. Pursuing a target over 20 jumps as he cloak mwds? SKUNK I respect this concern, however surely you are faster than him in aligning & warping and assuming you match his route fine, you should have at least 19 clear opportunities to approach, mwd, proximity decloak him before he gets a chance to warp again. What gate is he going to? hes cloaked untill half a second before he warps. So which one should I align to. Ohj.. hes in warp and im now just starting to align. Thats three seconds lost. Not to mention, if im zooming towards his last known location and dont uncloak him im now heading at 6000 m/s in the wrong direction and hes already half way across system in warp. Thats six seconds lost. HEs in the next system whilst your still coming out of warp. Which gate is he aligning to in the next sytem... jump jhump jump jump. Whats to say hes even in a slow aligning ship. Im in a dominix, hes in a cloak mwd dominix. BS vs BS.. fair fight. No massive gang ganking him... wheeee watch him disapear as he roams around low sec at will. People go on about fast locks and uber intys, but back when I could be bothered to care about the game, to prove the point I rolled my alt through the best low sec camps in the game (and 60 man faction warfare frigate fleets to boot) using a mega and a cloak mwd, never was caught. An intended 2 slot module which makes one near invulnerable in low sec and provides cloaking and mwd capabilitys, in exchange for some small loss in locking time would never be implemented into the game. Anyone suggesting it would be laughed at. But because its a unintended side effect of the cloak mwd, its alright then.. is it? Anyway, to the OP I wouldnt waste your time getting het up its not worth it. SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2011.05.17 14:13:00 - [4] Edited by: Le Skunk on 17/05/2011 14:17:15 Edited by: Le Skunk on 17/05/2011 14:15:03 Originally by: Lady Go Diveher Skunk ... 1) The MWD cloaktrick is fit onto ships who wish to avoid combat. The locktime on a battleship is so miserable its near useless .. and on many you're removing a highslot from an essential utility mod or weapon. Basically, in your theoretical example, you're moaning that you can't use the worst ship possible, to catch a gimped ship that doesn't actually want to fight. +1 balls to you. 1) Scan res drop on a cloak is 40%. Scan res increase on a t2 sensor booster is 60%. Fitting costs are negligable. The penalty for being able to whip past 99% of lowsec camps is.... a tiny drop in scan res :) My point was that people say the cloak mwd is used for escaping the bully boy 10 man gang who want to gank you 10v1 when its equaly often used to avoid a 1v1. People complain YOU USE TEN SHIPS TO GANK MY ONE without thinking WHY there are 10 ships on the gate. * You need something with a quick point or else the target warps away. * You need quick effective webs and a scram, or else the target gates back to gate. * You need long range webs in case the target burns away from the gate and escapes. * You need falcon support to stand a chance if hotdroped by 40 moms. (to get away that is) * You need multiple BS for DPS and to tanke the unkillable, massive range, perfect tracking sentry guns. * You need a couple of Smartbomb bs, to stand a chance of catching the stupider frigates. * You need a gang booster to push tackle ranges up / pimp faction mods. So youve got 400 million Skill points on the gate. 4 Bill in ships and fittings. 10 pilots all working in co-ordination (with associated logistical legwork). All to catch a 3 mill sp char in a 50 mill ship who drops 10 mill isk in loot. Lose on of your ships, and you need to kill 50 targets just to break even. The irony is, the same people who claim cloak mwd is the only way to combat the bully boy gankers with the 10 man gang.... are the same ones advocating making that 10 man gang a 13 man gang by including a few intys to decloak the cloak mwders Then of course, they will scream THIRTEEN vs 1 - YOU GANKERS ARE PATHETIC. ONE v ONE ME AND I WOULD KILL YOU. Anyway, cloak mwd didnt kill piracy. Jump freighters, cov ops haulers, and jump portals killed piracy (as a profession that is) SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2011.05.17 14:23:00 - [5] Originally by: Damien McCandless ... to prove the point. I rolled my alt in w o w, never was caught.... LOL Skunk (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2011.05.17 14:39:00 - [6] Originally by: Damien McCandless Originally by: Le Skunk The penal.... a tiny drop YOU USE ONE without thinking. * You need something * You need webs and a cam * You need long range webs in case the target burns if hotdroped by 40 moms. (to get away that is) * You need massive guns. * You need a couple of stupider pimp factions. So youve got 400 million pilots all working in co-ordination just to break even. unconsensual nerfed and nerfed and nerfed by A PIRATE on the box those many years ago) pirates have had to work harder and harder and harder to sc** a sneaky churning carbear. boy with the 10 man gang.... Then of course, I WOULD KILL YOU. Anyway, kill piracy. haulers kill piracy SKUNK Why does your toon look like Barbie's Ken dressed up as a ** star? Does your boss know your on internet forums again? KEN (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2011.05.17 17:45:00 - [7] Originally by: Wardeneo Originally by: Lady Spank Maybe you should do something other than gatecamp like a fairy. +1 I LOL'D :) Not as much as I lol'd looking at your killboard stats FLEX (o)

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